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Old 28th June 2017, 03:16 PM
Henry Curniffe Henry Curniffe is offline
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Good afternoon all. I am a new member so this is my first post. Firstly to conform with members wishes please let me introduce myself. My name is Henry and I am not at all technically educated , nor am I even electronically adept. However I am a lover of music , jazz , blues,60sand70s soul and some classical search.
I have been reading a great many of the threads on this site for sometime now and came across the one regarding the bass shy wd25ts. I have a pair of these speakers and am in full agreement of this characteristic. They may very well be room dependent, but if my memory serves me well, they were designed to work in any average normal room so in this instance they have not achieved the objective.
At some point in the future I will try and replace the thick fomefilling and try something else ,long hair wool fibre etc,to free up some volume in the cabs. Has anyone done this already. What was the result.
Henry Curniffe
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Old 28th June 2017, 03:36 PM
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Hi Henry and welcome, I think that you should use these speakers hard against a wall for better bass, you may have read that I tried a pair and found them bass light, in fact, I was very surprised by the lack of wallop for such a large speaker, I think that this my be a Peter C trait, as have recently heard his new QUAD Z speakers, and these too are disappointing in the bass department, I will let other members comment on your suggestions. BOB
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Old 28th June 2017, 04:34 PM
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Thank you Bob. Yes they are close against a rear wall. I think that this is just the way they are. Will change one of these days when funds permit
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Old 28th June 2017, 08:02 PM
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Welcome Henry. I have also owned a pair of these with the Seas Millennium tweeter. On mine, the treble was absolutely fantastic but the bass was adequate but not stomping. They still made a reasonable sound and obviously they were more than adequate for many music genres especially if they are close to the wall to give Peter's designed 3dB bass lift. They didn't however have the bass slam of my KLS3's.

I would be wary of replacing the foam in the port or at least, don't do anything you can't reverse. Remember they are an aperiodic design and the air resistance the port foam provides is specifically part of the design. I agree with suggestions on how Peter likes to hear his music. I worked with him closely on several occasions when he was MD of WD and in my view, he likes a much brighter treble and lighter bass from what I personally would wish for. I thought all the tweeters were over bright in the 25A and 25T versions until he introduced the Millennium which I think he got right.
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Old 28th June 2017, 10:06 PM
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Indeed. Going back to Heybrook days it was never easy to get deep bass out of HB1s or HB3s, both of which used relatively large paper bass units like the WD25s, albeit in IB enclosures, and were designed to be used against the wall. The exception to the rule was Peter's first design, the HB2. This had a Bextrene bass unit with a resistive rear-firing port. It was intended to be used about six inches from the wall, and produced a bass performance out of all proportion to its size.
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Old 29th June 2017, 12:17 AM
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I am going to defend these speakers as I really love them and they were only bought after an hour with Peter demonstrating them with his big band music and fed by WD amps.

Mine are in a small room and tight into the corners. They are fed by a Quad Classic integrated amp and sound great.

Personally I hate modern boxes that sound both bright and bass heavy with little mid body - the exact opposite of Peters speakers and his current Chinese produced variants.

Mel
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Old 1st July 2017, 05:16 PM
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Just to emphasis how different our taste are. Even the designers have different tastes from the rest of us. Let's listen to music , to our out taste.
Henry.
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Old 18th October 2017, 02:17 PM
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Iīd like to revise what I said about the bass on my speakers. They werenīt at fault - it was the output caps value on my DIY souped up Puresound P10 valve phono pre which were originally 1.0uFand at designer Guy Sergeantīs recommendation I upped their value to that of current P10 production, namely 2.2uF. Not that I understand much but it would seem a larger value output cap allows lower frequencies to get through and presumably thanks to their aperiodic nature the WD25Tex can in fact manage this extra info without booming. I still havenīt fitted my air core mid/ bass inductor coils yet so presumably they can only get better. I am certainly not going to change my WD25Ts just yet.
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Old 23rd November 2017, 05:15 PM
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I built a pair of 25Ts about four years ago and I like them. However, I've sometimes wondered if the bass might be be a bit light. My conclusion is that the overall response is natural and that the bass is neither exaggerated nor understated. I doubt that they would produce a sound that would make your ears bleed or your ribs rattle, but that suits me. My assumption is that the music I'm hearing is close to the music that was recorded, taking into account the natural hearing loss of old age.
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