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Old 14th September 2008, 02:35 PM
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first was a nad 3020 brilliant thing, second musical fidelity a3, third, mf xa1, 4th somewhat crapper due to kids, sony str 11l reciever, 5th rotel ra312, absolutely brilliant amp with a lovely sound, 6th trio ka305 that was ok, 7th sony str2800l reciever that was passable and had a decent phono stage, and last and best, the rocky el34 amp with golden dragon 6sl7s and jan 6l6s. very happy with it, just need to get the planned phono stage built................
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Old 16th September 2008, 06:14 PM
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Sugden A25B was my first brand new amp in 2000. Tape monitor switch is worn out now. I've bought another Sugden A25B, two weeks ago, tape monitor switch on this one is a bit noisy. Pioneer receiver was my first amp, has Shortwave on it, as well as the usual bands.
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Old 2nd February 2009, 09:01 PM
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First amp: pair of home made Mullard 5-10s, driven by a Sugden C51.

Change of speakers from Wharfdale RS8DDs in 40 litre distributed port enclosures to a pair of Quad ESL 57s.

Second amp: The output circuits from a Sugden A21, built by me and driven by the C51.

Insuficient power for the Quads,so

Third amp: pair of Quad II amps with Quad 22 preamp.

Fourth amp: Quad 405 with Quad 44 preamp.

Fifth amp: pair of Quad 50Es (used as back up to amp 4).

Sixth amp: Quad 303 with Quad 33 preamp (used with DVD player and Freeview box).

The first, second and third amps have gone and I'm still happy with amps 4, 5 and 6.

Looks like I'm swimming against the current, however musician friends of mine still comment on how good they think my system is.
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Old 4th February 2009, 02:02 PM
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The unbelievable Sinclair amp (the C5 of electrickery) in 1974, it never really worked - I bought it from Lasky's who eventually exchanged for a BELT DRIVE deck ......the hardly a record deck goldring gl100 which lasted a week or so.

Then a Goodmans maxim which also blew its antisurge fuses regularily

Rodgers Ravensbourne which was DOA but I got it serviced

Then Naim Chrome bumpers along with Radford STA15 and pre and Leak stl 12 and pre. I still have the Naims but will sell em now.

I missed the valves very much when I sold them 20 years ago and now thanks to freecycle (for heavens sake) the mullard 4/5-20.

Seems I am in reverse to you Barry, did we pass on the highway of life?
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Old 4th February 2009, 05:32 PM
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The unbelievable Sinclair amp (the C5 of electrickery) in 1974, it never really worked - I bought it from Lasky's who eventually exchanged for a BELT DRIVE deck ......the hardly a record deck goldring gl100 which lasted a week or so.

Then a Goodmans maxim which also blew its antisurge fuses regularily

Rodgers Ravensbourne which was DOA but I got it serviced

Then Naim Chrome bumpers along with Radford STA15 and pre and Leak stl 12 and pre. I still have the Naims but will sell em now.

I missed the valves very much when I sold them 20 years ago and now thanks to freecycle (for heavens sake) the mullard 4/5-20.

Seems I am in reverse to you Barry, did we pass on the highway of life?
It might seem like that. I'm afraid that I have never been overly impressed with valve amps, or rather when comparisons were made, it was never the 'chalk and cheese' effect that most contributors to this forum seem to hear. I do however have to confess that over the years I have only heard five valve amps: the above mentioned Mullard 5-10; a Leak ST-20; a Radford (can't remember which model; it was 40 years ago); Quad 22/II and, most recently, an Audio Innovations 400(?)(25watts/ channel using EL34s). Of these the only comparison made was between the Quad IIs and my 405 into Quad ELS 57s. The comparison was inconclusive; whilst I heard some small differences, they were not sufficient to cause me to keep the valve amps.

Now that I have taken early retirement, I do have a hankering to try out a Radford STA15; supposed to be a perfect match into Quad ESLs. Since these are no longer made, and now fetch a fortune on eBay, it looks as though I will have to build one myself. Sowter still make the transformers and I have the valves kicking around somewher in the loft, left over from my amp building days. But there again, the best amp I ever heard at home feeding my speakers was the solid state Elecrocompaniet 25 watt/channel Class A amp. Maybe I ought to build one of these instead.

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Old 5th February 2009, 12:41 AM
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No doubt Peter Walker would love your comments about II's and a 405!

Electrocompaniet were clearly well thought out beasties ...was that the one chassis but in reality monoblok one?

I wish I had your technical skill - i am beginning to consider a pre 3 kit - but would like to hear one first. I find myself lured by the SE experience and persuaded by its logic.

However first - something other than isobariks!
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Old 5th February 2009, 08:36 AM
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The Radford brand is being revived by Peter from WD.There will be a tranmission-line speaker,and the amps will be built again.Don't know how closely they will follow the originals.
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Old 6th February 2009, 05:33 PM
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No doubt Peter Walker would love your comments about II's and a 405!

Electrocompaniet were clearly well thought out beasties ...was that the one chassis but in reality monoblok one?

I wish I had your technical skill - i am beginning to consider a pre 3 kit - but would like to hear one first. I find myself lured by the SE experience and persuaded by its logic.

However first - something other than isobariks!
Apropos the Electrocompaniet amp - I don't know. It was a single chassis job, but I believe the power supplies for the two channels were separate as far as the secondary windings wound on a common transformer core. Apart from the sound, I remember them running hot and I believe the commercial products developed a poor reputation for reliability. If I was to build one I would go back to the original Loestroh and Otala design.

Without wishing to cause offence, the Linn Isobariks go down in my listening experience as some of the worst speakers I have ever heard; almost made me seasick to listen to them ! I only hope they sounded much better in your set up than in the shop demo where I first heard them, or Linn's own demo at one of the Hi Fi shows (later but sounded just as bad).

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Old 6th February 2009, 09:07 PM
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No problem Barry, straight talking is fine. Recall I have a naim based system so <supposedly> synergies there and the 'briks varied hugely throughout their production. It was the early ones which established their rep, crazy and extrovert items, the later ones were far too smooth IMO. I hardly recognise the Linn in house sound these days and I have a friend with a 6 pack new Linn set up in 2 rooms in his house it uses the follw up to 'briks, a lot of money for a refined but for me 'distant' cerebral sound.

On another matter though it was only when I tried the WD 5/4-20 thru them that I heard the so called bextrene quack of the B110 mid ranges. I had never heard it standing out on the naims - fascinating

Sadly I doubt I will be able to afford new Radfords, the specialist relaunched version was £1500 as I recall and that was 25 years ago!

I see a pair of Lowthers for sale at 600 at a place I visit and a pair of chassis Wharfedale RS8 SDD's for sale on feebay. Concentrics and efficient but no modern designs are known to me. better stop writing this thread is about first amps not ancient drivers.
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