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Old 1st September 2018, 07:20 PM
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Greg,
received the new PSU board today. The legality issue will affect the Tortuga which is sold across the world. I havn't see a single mention anywhere about the cadmium issue.

The new PSU allows for different types of supply. Hopefully drilling the base plate for stand-offs will be the hardest part.
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Old 1st September 2018, 09:11 PM
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Here you go from the Farnell website.

https://www.element14.com/community/...rs-has-expired

I can assure you that Chris is fully aware of the legality issue. It was discussed at length on AOS, a forum Chris is a member of and contributed to on the subject at the time. There is plenty more information about it on the web. Just google Light dependent resistor EU regulations.
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Old 2nd September 2018, 04:24 PM
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Greg,
if your piece of kit had worked successfully would you have ditched it, presuming that you didn't know it contained prohibited substances before you bought.

I see Farnell is selling LDRs - presumably they don't contain cadmium.

Personally I'm far more concerned with plastic pollution across the planet and it's seas, the micro plastics knowingly used by big business in shower gels.The use of single use plastic and the plastic that we ingest when we break the seal on said plastic bottles Roundup a known carcinogen killer and bee killer allowed by the EU, the tool of big business, nitrate pollution destroying life in rivers and killing wildlife on the shores of Normandy and Brittany.Oestrogen that is not removed in water treatment plants that is seriously affecting male fertility - oh wait a minute the only species that needs seriously culling due to over breeding is the bipedial primate, so that is a good thing.

Here in France outside Tours is a secret French government dumping site for nuclear waste - in 1990 it covered 10hectares. If you phone the appropriate government dept. to ask about it, they put the phone down.

Insane human over population, fructose, salt and sugar = obesity/diabetes/heart disease , in the scheme of things Greg, cadmium is almost an irrelevance. I would wish that these LDR volume controls didn't use LEDs but in percentage terms I car far more about the above issues.
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Old 2nd September 2018, 09:52 PM
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Well, Stuart, I am in complete agreement with you on the things in our world to be concerned about, but that isn’t really the point is it? The principle problem is that by EU directive, Stereo Coffee is illegal within the EU. It makes little difference whether you or I agree or disagree with the legislation. Our social responsibility is to comply with the laws we are subjected to. Frustrating, I know. I had to spend thirty years in my former life enforcing legislation I personally didn’t agree with, and regardless of the discipline of my role, my over-riding social responsibility required me to comply. The alternative (picking and choosing to comply with only the rules we like) leads to anarchy.

You are right. At the time I dabbled with Stereo Coffee, I was not aware of the legal implications. We’re I, I would never have gone there. If cadmium free LDR’s are now available, hopefully Chris is now using them, although I was a little troubled to discover that after the forum exposure (not just AOS. Also on Hi-Fi Subjectivist) he seemed to disregard his export obligations at the time.

Anyway, I know you are a responsible citizen and if you don’t like the sound the SC brings, you will dispose of it or move it on in a suitable way. I hope you have not been in France so long to adopt the convenient French attitude of only embrassing the laws they find convenient and acceptable.
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Old 3rd September 2018, 10:29 AM
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Good reply Greg,
as we both know integrity doesn't have much value these days.

Re. the French I must disagree there, if you were talking about the Spanish, yes in spades. The professional class is 99% corrupt - check out the ERA scandal online - 980 million given to the junta de Andalucia. At the time PSOE (supposedly Socialist). Not a single centimo went to employ the youth and long term unemployed. It all went into the pockets of the junta. 10 years later - no one has gone to prison or a single centimo recovered. Any judge that tried to advance the prosecution was sacked - so it goes.

I am warning anyone not to think about buying a property in Spain, anywhere - rent don't buy. All the professionals will lie to you - estate agents/lawyers/town hall technicos/mayors, especially the mayors and banks who will happily sell you repossessed properties that are illegal builds. Oh yes all Spanish property is badly built. Problem is the Brits only look at how 'pretty it looks, completely irrelevant, the same as in France where they buy 'lovely stone' built properties that are freezing cold in winter and you swelter in summer.

If Joe Punter took the time to look at what constitutes good materials and build, virtually no property would sell anywhere - la genta es muy stupido - es la verdad.
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Old 3rd September 2018, 01:49 PM
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If Joe Punter took the time to look at what constitutes good materials and build, virtually no property would sell anywhere - la genta es muy stupido - es la verdad.
Oh how painfully on the nose Stuart.
I'm still at the costing/when can you actually get a team of skilled trades together etc stage of the proposed upstairs refurb here.
I was reassured by my choice of local roofing/joinery contractor to be the lead contractor as he went straight to the heart of the construction issues that the Architect had glossed over. Turns out he was bang on the button. Anyway this best continued in the coffee bar i think. But right behind you on the worthlessness of "Architects".

Andy
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Old 8th September 2018, 09:01 AM
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Greg,
I see on another forum that at one time you found the S/C at that time, 4 years ago, it was the best volume control by a margin.

It would appear that the kit you ordered didn't perform. You are more than competent at kit building and I like so many others have found Chris is extremely helpful. How this became a negative is beyond me and is sad for both you and Chris.

The S/C has changed greatly in the last 4 years and as of now is down to 2 boards, I have received the very latest iteration. I plan to start building the kit today. the stand-off holes are only 2mm and I have only 3mm stand-offs so have to drill both the boards and chassis to take the stand-offs - vamos a ver.
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Old 11th September 2018, 08:42 PM
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Let us know how you get on.
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Old 16th September 2018, 11:28 AM
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Got delayed with other matters.

The Chinese made alu Chassis is so chunky/heavy - I had to ream out the knobs to take the Bourne pot and selector switch and find some fibre washers as spacers but now the knobs are smooth to operate - very impressed with this Chinese made chassis. Will have to drill the base plate to fix the two boards, this only leaves soldering the wire ends for the screw fixing and soldering the RCA input and output chassis plugs - then - the moment of truth.
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Old 30th September 2018, 10:28 PM
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Just finished putting together the Stereo Coffee. Got delayed with a no show for resistors, the seller resent, only 60K away in the same Department then, the first package arrived 5 days after the second one arrived.

Always banging the drum for Puresonic RCA plugs BUT don't touch the lovely looking chassis RCAs - too much metal to easily solder the earth wire to, just like a lot of plugs.

The Stereo Coffee is always a 'work in progress' Chris is going to send me a back-to-back diode thingy to improve/isolate the LDR board's earthing. I've convinced him to create a schematic that is real world and easy to work to.

I've powered it up and done continuity checks, all OK will connect it to the D/V tomorrow. I've taken this opportunity to disconnect the D/Vs pot and installed my own multiple conductor signal wire - vamos a ver.
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