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Pingushome 17th May 2022 01:38 AM

WD/WAD HD83 Mk2
 
Hi ,
So after the kind help from snowman al and Bob, thanks to you both, the Maplin mains filter being built and Iíve now got the bug again!
I was thinking my hd83 could do with a brush up. Thereís a very small in balance between channels and a slight russell when music is very quiet. Neither is enough to need a checkout really but I inherited it form a friend and itís getting a bit long in the tooth now I think.
So I was thinking new caps/better, bigger psu caps, different diodes, and some Mills resistors for the bigger ones, check replace other resistors. Probably a pair of new valves too.
Or should I just go for the XL upgrade from Matthew?
Alternately I could go for the 3S pcb and upgrade it to a 3S. That was on the cards a while ago but then didnít think, and still donít think, Iíd need the impedance matching anyway.
Iíd be interested to know what others have done to their amps and the results. Any suggestions or thoughts on parts, makes, values would be gratefully received
Thanks
Martin

BOONDI 17th May 2022 11:48 PM

Re: WD/WAD HD83 Mk2
 
Itchy fingers.....

A good upgrade to psu caps is to simply replace with higher voltage lower esr. I used 450v rubicons. Also coupling caps replaced with high quality polypropylene types of same value. As for resistors, you could try foils in the signal paths. As for valves, Watford valves have stumbled onto a limited stock of Amprex Ecl83's but they cost a bit more than the mullard types. For the diodes, some on here will no doubt have recommendations for their own particular silent ultra fast super dooper favourites.....:thumbsup:

bob orbell 18th May 2022 06:58 AM

Re: WD/WAD HD83 Mk2
 
Agree with Boondi on the power supply, Nichicon do some very good, very low ESR capacitors with which you can hear the change, they also do some very high price ones, Nick Lucas has then at Hi-Fi Collective, make sure you are sitting down though when you look at the price. Wima MKP10 coupling capacitors are also very good. Bob

Pingushome 25th May 2022 11:31 AM

Re: WD/WAD HD83 Mk2
 
Thank you both for your advice Iíve had the amp apart and after a critical look and remembering g what a pain it was soldering all those pin connections Iíve decided that discretion is the better partÖÖ..until the hum gets worse.
So itís a change of valves for now, having just broken one.

Iíll try those Amprex, Boondi as you say only a couple of quid extra

Bob, yes always amusing looking at Hifi collective, deep pockets a must.

Thanks again for the advice I think a ďconservativeĒ upgrade when it becomes unavoidable

Martin

A.N. Beal 26th May 2022 07:04 PM

Re: WD/WAD HD83 Mk2
 
Dear Martin,
I can suggest two methods for hunting dry joints in case these are contributing to your 'rustling' and hum noises.
1. With the amplifier on and connected to loudspeakers, poke connections with a plastic chopstick and if any make crackling noises resolder them.
2. Examine connections with a bright torch and magnifying glass and resolder any which look less than perfect.
Regards,
Alasdair

BOONDI 26th May 2022 07:32 PM

Re: WD/WAD HD83 Mk2
 
I bought some of the amprex. Only a few hours listening with my cheaper sony phones, but sound as good as the mullards already. My reference denon phones are still in the boxes from my house move about 8 yrs ago. :rolleyes:

As per Bob's suggestion, the mkp wima 10 caps are a good cheap option. I used them extensively in my homebuilt phono and in my Heathkit monoblock rebuild. Am considering using them again when i rebuild some of the other junk I have lying in boxes....:eek:

The ones on the WD site the sax are also a good cap. I tried some ruskie pio as couplers, they sound lovely and warm and with excellent clarity but I suspect that like all pio they will eventually turn leaky electrically. I will eventually put mkp back in so as to avoid red anodes of death.

Take your time, get the circuit and stare it down, make a list of things to replace and when you are ready, get the iron on....:thumbsup:

Matthew Snell 27th May 2022 01:04 PM

Re: WD/WAD HD83 Mk2
 
... don't forget that we have valves on the website everyone!

Matthew

bikerhifinut 30th May 2022 11:27 PM

Re: WD/WAD HD83 Mk2
 
The russian PIO such as the K40Y have glass sealed ends and are generally considered to be very reliable. I've had them in my Leak Stereo20 for around 10 years now and they are still fine. These were designed for use in heavy duty military applications so I'd expect them to be reasonably robust.
I also used them as interstage couplers in the Homebrew EL34 project, very loosely based on the classic old Leak triple loop TL design with the first stage gain reduced and feedback ratio kept the same. Sounds pretty darn good to my old lugs.

Andy

BOONDI 31st May 2022 01:47 AM

Re: WD/WAD HD83 Mk2
 
There is no doubts that they sound good Andy. I think mine are the same, with sealed glass ends in a steel tube. One of the problems I had with them though is the leadouts are also made of steel and can be very brittle. I actually managed to snap one of them off, but a bit of copper and wire wrapping sorted it. I hope the glass did not get a hairline crack in it though. I think thats why I watch the valves every now and again....:eek:i

bob orbell 31st May 2022 07:18 AM

Re: WD/WAD HD83 Mk2
 
Sorry to be negative on this but, should we really be plugging Russian goods at this time :(. Bob


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